In this episode of the podcast, JR talks with Lori Bishop, NHPCO’s Vice President of Palliative and Advanced Care, and Balu Natarajan, MD, Chief Medical Officer at Seasons Healthcare Management and chair of NHPCO’s Palliative Care Council. Lori and Balu discuss the future of community-based palliative care, how that can integrate into CMS models and demos, and why “we can’t stand still” when it comes to the future of serious illness care.